! This post hasn't been updated in over a year. A lot can change in a year including my opinion and the amount of naughty words I use. There's a good chance that there's something in what's written below that someone will find objectionable. That's fine, if I tried to please everybody all of the time then I'd be a Lib Dem (remember them?) and I'm certainly not one of those. The point is, I'm not the kind of person to try and alter history in case I said something in the past that someone can use against me in the future but just remember that the person I was then isn't the person I am now nor the person I'll be in a year's time.
There are now so many slowpeds in England that a candidate for the Polish Prime Ministership (is that a word?) is canvassing for votes in London.
Twenty polling stations have been set up for Polish voters and the Polish Consul General wants to make sure that nobody has to travel more than 80 miles to cast their vote.
This weekend, four political parties will send representatives from Poland to appear on Polish Radio London.
God help us.
Technorati Tags: England, Poland, Immigration
Championing democracy is more important than worrying where those votes are. Poland’s 20th century past of occupation and tyranny is testament to how important it is that the country can exhibit a fair and free election.
The fact of the matter is, Britain may well have up to 1 million Poles, most of them working hard and contributing to the wellbeing of the rest of us.
But those same politicians visiting Britain will be touring all of Europe. Up to 5 million Poles have left Poland in recent years for other parts of Europe, not just the UK. In Germany alone, it is believed there are 3 million Poles working – mostly without a work permit.
Remember also: that’s 3m out of a local population of 82m, which is 3.65 percent. How many in Britain? If you have been following me constructively so far, you can figure that 1m out of 60m is….just 1.6 percent.
George
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This year, more poles actually left the UK then came in.
Additionally, in the past 10 years immigrants have had a net benefit for the British economy of 3bn, they have made us 3bn more than they have cost us. We still have around a million job vacancies which British workers are unwilling to fill. Immigrants will fill such vacancies. We need more immigrants, not less as UKIP have argued, saying we should have no immigrants for 3 years, then let in only a few. If we did that our economy would suffer, we all would suffer. There would be minnions of vacant jobs, many British workers would loose their job as the jobs further down the line weren’t being done.
Immigration is a good thing, not a bad thing. This country only survived the 50’s and 60’s due to immigration, immigrants helped build the country again after we beat Hitler (with them fighting alongside us – all those from the commonwealth and many other nations). Immigrants are a source of much of our economic stability at the moment. They are a good thing, and we need if anything more rather than less. Hence, UKIP’s immigration policy, along with that of the BNP and others if fatally flawed, and would ruin our country.
George, I’m not saying that having Poles here is a bad thing in itself, I’m just concerned at the quantity, not just of Poles, but of other nationalities in England. If they all spoke English to an acceptable standard and had jobs then it wouldn’t be such a big issue but the thing is, as an island, we’ve never had this kind of multi-culturalism that is a natural part of other cultures, especially on the continent. Has there ever been a single ethnic group making up over 1% of the population? The Vikings weren’t a single ethnic group, nor were the Romans. This is one of the big cultural differences between England and the rest of Europe – we’ve never had this relentless exposure to “invading” cultures before, we don’t have anything built in to our national psyche to deal with this kind of thing. Do you get what I mean?
I have to say, though, the only Poles I’ve seen round Telford are either dropping their (non-English speaking) kids off at school or hanging around in gangs of 4 or 5 outside the main shopping centre in sking-tight jeans, bomber jackets and shaved heads. They actually look quite intimidating.
Calum, you’ve done it again. You can’t regurgitate Liebour propaganda as facts and if you’re going to talk about historical facts, please make sure you know the facts.
Who says immigrants have been a net benefit of £3bn to the economy? The Liebour Party. Why? Because they won’t admit their revolving door policy on immigration hasn’t worked and because immigrants – especially socialist Europeans – vote Liebour.
Ask yourself why so many natives (for want of a better word) won’t do the jobs. It’s because, yet again, Liebour’s disasterous policies on social security have made it this way and they won’t admit it. Things like Tax Credits and other benefits make it easier to not work than to work. I would be so much better off not working than I am working, it’s a good jib I have a work ethic! Force people to work for their benefits and it wouldn’t be such an issue.
Immigration in the 50’s and 60’s was encouraged to rebuild the population after a large percentage of the adult male population was killed during the war. That’s not a problem now, there are more than enough people here, we don’t need anything other than natural growth.
I don’t buy the argument that immigrants are natural labour voters. THe pooer you are, the less likely you are to vote, and there’s nothing socialist about labour anymore… remember blair’s clause four moment? Labour’s in power because of the votes of more affluent voters in marginal seats.
The reason why bosses prefer immigrant workers is because they can be more easily exploited – as with the horrific Dominoes case and a whole load of others.
As for forcing people to work – where are these jobs going to come from, Wonko? Immigrants don’t steal them – research suggests that in areas with high unemployment, immigrants haven’t moved in to take the places of supposedly lazy natives.
Working people of all nationalities in this country have to come together and struggle against our common enemy – the capitalist class which lives off the wealth we generate.
Liebour drives the gravy train, they are the party of choice for immigrants, dole dossers and others who are reliant on the welfare state. They’ve engineered this system deliberately, why else would they introduce a system that cuts tax allowances to make low earners pay more tax and then employ tens of thousands of people to give them that money back?
I agree immigrants don’t steal jobs, I didn’t say they did. The ones that work generally do the jobs that “natives” won’t. As I said, “natives” should be forced to do the jobs and the only way you’re going to do that is to make it impossible to live off benefits if you’re fit for work. How would I do that? I’ll post that up shortly.
As promised:
http://www.wonkosworld.co.uk/wordpress/2007/10/10/making-people-work/